The Way I Heard It w Mike Rowe - #443 Rick Perry

Former Texas Governor and U.S. Energy Secretary Rick Perry doesn’t appear to have much interest in retirement. Instead of slowing down, he’s immersed in two ambitious initiatives that would keep most people fully occupied. One is the development of Fermi America, a massive new energy and data infrastructure project. The other focuses on advancing ibogaine research as a potential breakthrough treatment for PTSD, an effort he is actively working to bring into the legal and medical landscape.

In this conversation, Perry discusses both initiatives, the motivations behind them, and why he believes the moment is right to pursue bold solutions to major challenges. The discussion is occasionally interrupted by a lively group of dogs eager to join the conversation.